#73 - Therapeutic Laser for Treating Pain, Part 1

Hi guys, Welcome to another episode of The Factor podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Riddle. If this is your first time tuning in, welcome and thank you for listening. The topic that we're covering today and in our next episode is therapeutic laser and its applications for treating pain. Now, therapeutic laser and other light therapy devices have surged in popularity in recent years, so much so that you'll be hard pressed to attend any healthcare conference without seeing these types of devices there. In this two part training, we will hear from Mark Callanan, a doctor of physical therapy and the director of Clinical Education and Recovery Sciences for Aenovis, the company behind brands such as Chattanooga and light Force lasers. We will talk about laser theory's role in treating acute and chronic conditions and the more nuanced applications for ridiculopathy. Doctor Callanan will also talk about treatment protocols that follow a patient's nerve pathways and how the heat generated from high level laser can address muscle spasms and joint stiffness. This particular training which was originally offered, of course, in webinar form featured a ton of great visuals, graphics and references to relevant research, so you'll want to be sure to click in the webinar replay link in our show notes. If you're more of a visual learner, Let's cue the interim music and get started. Excited to be here, and today's talk is really designed to just be an overview of what laser therapy is. There's a lot of sort of smoke and mud out there in the space, so a lot of misinformation, and I spent a lot of time trying to get information out to everybody. So hopefully when we wrap things up today, you'll have a little better feeling on how lasers really work from a mechanistic standpoint, some of the recommendations from different groups and research that's supporting the use of lasers, so that for those of you that are trying to really follow an evidence based path feel comfortable that laser definitely fits into that category. So I'm a physical therapist by training and receive my doctor in Physical therapy from Marymount University in Arlington, Virginia. I was in the outpatient space for or eighteen years before joining lighte Force back in twenty seventeen. I was the director of clinical Education. A couple of years ago, light Force was acquired by now a Novis, it was DJO Global, and since that point I've been the director of Education and Marketing for a Novis. So that's kind of what I've been up to and again happy to be here today. So what we're going to go over today is a general overview of the definition mechanisms of photo bimodulation, which is the term for laser therapy now that's accepted in the research, take a look at some current research as well as different support guidelines that are out there from the APPA, the American College of Physicians, the American it should be Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, a little bit of a TYPEOO there, And when we're done, hopefully the takeaways will be that you'll understand how laser really impacts cells, Understand how wavelength, power and dose seem will impact outcomes, be able to explain the differences between high and low power lasers with regard to how the impact pain because there is some differences there that are pretty significant, and explain how to effectively incorporate laser with other treatment concepts in an evidence based manner. So when you hear laser, not sure what comes into mind, but it might be something like this. For your patients, when you mentioned laser, they very well might be thinking about this. So it's really important to help provide good instruction as to what it is and how it's going to help them, and that it's a safe modality because when you mentioned laser, sometimes fear can become an issue for those folks. So from an historical standpoint, back in nineteen oh three, the only Nobel Prize that was ever awarded to a modality that I'm aware of was awarded to Neil Spinson and it was used to treat these large sort of purplish blotches called lupus vulgaris, and they found that if you use light boxes with specific wavelengths that they were able to help clear that up. So that was a pretty big date over one hundred years ago now and sort of the beginning or the advent of laser as we know it started. Most people would agree in nineteen sixty seven where Andre Mester was a physicist and he was looking at mice and trying to figure out if you put laser light on their skin, if it created cancer's tumors. And it didn't do that, but it caused some hair growth to show up on their backs, and that sort of sparked the question of what's going on there, And since then research has been going on to figure out what happens when you put these special wavelengths of light onto tissue. So from a chronological standpoint, these are just some significant dates as far as laser goes. If you've noticed, if you've done any research on literature or on laser, you would notice that there's a lot more low power studies that are in PubMed or sin all. And the primary reason for that in the United States is just that there's been thirty year head start on FDA clearance for the lower power devices in two thousand and fours when the FDA cleared use of Class four devices for human use for therapy. So since that time, the amount of research that's been out has increased significantly, and there's been a number of significant endorsements from different groups for laser therapy. The World Health Organization APTA has made several different endorsements for different clinical pathways, which we'll talk about more in depth here later in the talk, as well as some things from the American College of Physicians, the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, as well as a recent position paper from the CDC. So definitely getting a lot of acceptance on this modality, which is exciting. If you do look for research on this, you want to look underneath the term photobiomodulation. This is the accepted term for laser and the most current research will be underneath this. So if you're doing a meshad mesh heater search, you'd want to use photobiomodulation plus whatever your topic you're looking for a low back pain or neuropathy or whatever it might be, and you'll get the most current stuff. The other mesh header where most of the older research falls under is LLLT, which stands for a low level either a laser therapy or a low level light therapy. It wasn't quite specific, but that LT moniker was used for many many years as the primary mesh header. So looking under those two headers will help you find out what's going on. I often hear there's no research on laser. It's because people put in laser and low back pain and it's not specific enough. So just the heads up on that. So when you think about photobiomodulation. Think about is you're trying to impact cell metabolism. So I put this picture of jumper cables on a battery when your car's dead. The light kind of does the same thing and excite minochondria and sort of wakes the cells up. So as light's absorbed, it impacts atp production, It impacts nuclear function from an mRNA RNA function, which is important for cell replication, as well as the number of things that happened at the membrane level. So think of it as instead of a six cell going towards apoptosis or dying, the laser helps pretty much rejuvenate it. It's like putting sort of life paddles on that cell and helps try to prevent it from having to pass away and get basically gobbled up by macrophages and replaced. So when you put light into the tissue, you're trying to impact the minochondria, and that is happening on more specifically on the inner mitochondria membrane where you have the electron transport chain. So I have a little diagram here to help kind of walk through that, but basically what this is showing is the electron transport chain and as the crab cycle pumps away, what happens is that it produces ATP. When you have a damage cell or a cell that's at a low oxygen STE eight and it's not in a healthy state, what will happen is that nitric oxide will bound down here on this fourth ribosome on the electron transport chain cytochrome co oxidase. And the thought is that when light hits that it with very specific wavelengths, there's chromophores there that can absorb the light and it releases that nitrocoxide and it frees up that block on the electron transport chain and allows normal oxidative phosphorylation to take place. So it's a pretty cool little cartoon, but this format doesn't work with that unfortunately. But that's what that was about. So from a review standpoint, you basically you're putting light into the tissue. It's going to increase the activity of cytochromesyoxidase. It's going to increase the mitochondria function, which will increase auxygen consumption better ATP production, which will help restore the energy balance in the cell to help it from basically going into apoptosis. So if a patient were to ask you, how's it work? If you know these little talking points here, you'll be in pretty each shape. So what is indicated for Most companies use a similar indication. This is for light force. It's our five to ten K clearance with the FDA, and basically it states that the laser is able to be used to elevate tissue temperature for temporary relief of minor pain joint pain and stiffness minor archrightis pain or muscle spasm, and temporarily increase localized blood flow and increase relaxation of muscle. So this is essentially the first submission for laser in the US, and most companies that basically just use this as as a predicate to allow them to go to market underneath these same parameters, know that this was submitted many, many years ago, and it doesn't really bring into the account of all the different mechanisms of photobiomodulation. So don't be fooled if you look at the indication statement on a laser and feel that maybe it's not doing some of the things that you've read that it can do. That's not really the intent of this the FDA clearance. It's just what has been filed for usage for them for that device, and it does impact what can be said on label about the device as far as marketing and things of that nature. So that's another ten minute discussion we could get into, but just understand if there's a mismatch of your understanding, that's probably why. So more realistically, in the clinic, what can the laser do. It can treat a whole bunch of different things with regard to both acute and chronic pains. It can help provide pain control that is non pharmacologic and non invasive, hopefully be able to possibly delay some orthopedic procedures. There's been many case studies that have been done looking at folks with say NEOA. They get treated with laser with therapies and it helps prolong the time you needed to get total n arthroplasty. So used as a management tool as well. Contra indications for laser generally, they're pretty consistent for most of the companies. This is from our LIGHTE Force units. Basically, wouldn't want to apply laser over a pregnant abdomen or low back or SI area. You wouldn't want to do it over growth plates for children, definitely want to try to avoid over electronical components like pacemakers or pain pumps, things of that nature. Not that there's a huge risk, but the thought is that you've got too much light on a dark lead wire can possibly heat up and cause it to short out, which would be a bad day for everybody. So we just advise people to stay away from any type of electrical implant on the patient. You can treat distal to it or approximal to it, but just not over it. How would you like to get even more great content from Factor in your inbox each week? Things like early access to exclusive retrainings, coupons and promotional offers from our online store, and timely updates on research and news you can use to grow your practice and improve your patient care. 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Quoting asteroids is the primary group that are impacting physical medicine that can make them photosensitive and more likely to have a thermal injury on the skin, so you want to be very cautious with that. We generally recommend waiting at least a week after somebody's got a corticle steroid injection before doing laser treatment on them. But if they're on some sort of oral prend zone or something like that, you'd want to ask that patient some questions about how photosensitive they are with that medicine and then discuss that with the patient. So you're going to get into wavelength and how that impacts photobimodulation. And this is just a quick diagram of the electromagnetic spectrum. So it goes from gamma rays which are where over there on the left, and then can go all the way over towards radio waves. The wavelengths that PBM utilize are in the near ANDFRED infrared range, so that's just north of the visible light spectrum. So you'll see on most of the wavelengths for these devices it's going to be somewhere between six hundred and thirty five nanometers and up to maybe just a little bit over one thousand nanometers. And we'll get into a little bit on why they might choose different ones, but just so you kind of get a sense of where those wavelengths are in the spectrum, I put this on here. Generally the frequencies go down as you go over towards the right. So essentially, think about like gamma rays and X rays. They're very high in energy, and that high energy, high frequency, they're ones that can create problems with cells, so they can create cancers. That's why you wouldn't want to sit with underneath an X ray for a long long time, or underneath gamma rays. They can be carcinogenic. The wavelengths that are used for photobimodulation, they do not cause they don't have enough energy to cause changes in the cell that way, so they're not not a risk of causing cancer, which makes it a very safe device to be able to use. So if all this talk about light and impacking cells seems a little funny, just to kind of bring it home a little bit, you probably are more aware of photobiodulation than you think. If you just think about sunlight as hitting plants being absorbed by chlorophyll and it's helping produce oxygen from CO two, that is a classic example of photobimodulation. The thing to appreciate is that chlorophyll is sensitive to two real peaks of light, so in the blue range as well as in the red range. And so if you took those two wavelength away from the light that comes from the sun, we probably run out of oxygen because they would not be able to produce as nearly as much oxygen as they do. So when you see someone growing possibly a plant in a basement that maybe you've visited, you noticed that they have a blue light sitting over those plants. This is the reason because the chloropho absorbs that blue light readily. So the good news is that these receptors that are in your cells the cidochrom cooxidase. What this is trying to show is that there is a very large band of wavelengths that they can react to. So over on the left side they're most reactive in that six hundred range six to fifty range, but then as you go down they have the ability to react to a lot of different wavelengths. So when people see this, or if they just take a cursory glance at their research, they would say, hey, why aren't all the wavelengths for these devices in that red range six fifty? And there are a lot of devices that are out there right now in this red light wavelength and they're getting a lot of publicity. So what I would tell you is that if you were trying to treat just so in a petri dish, that red light would be great, Or if you're trying to treat things on your skin, the red light is great. But the problem is that red light is so readily absorbed by melanin in your skin, is that if that was your primary wavelength, almost none of it is going to get below the skin, so it's almost too much of a good thing. So those devices that are primarily just a red light that you're thinking, okay, I can create some photobio modulation. I would just warn you, if your intent is to treat wounds or things that are on the skin, probably a pretty good choice. But if you're trying to treat things that are below the surface of the skin, tendons, joint capsules, possibly trying to get into a joint or deeper tissue, that wavelength will not really penetrate very well. And I'll show you a couple slides to help clarify that in a minute. So this slide gives you a sense of absorption on the y axis, and then you have wavelengths on the X axis, and they're getting longer as you move towards the right. And what it just shows you is that you have different molecules that absorb light at different wavelengths with different preference. So the important line to see on that is melanin, which happens to grab a lot of light in that six hundred range we were just talking about. But then you can see that melin starts to get less as absorbative as you move towards the eight hundred to mid nine hundred range. Once you go past one micron, which is a thousand nanometers, Basically you can see that that dark line on the right, that's water. It starts to absorb light preferentially. So if you have wavelengths that get too long, like out in that range, they're going to basically be absorbed by water, which isn't necessarily what you want to have happen. And if you have wavelengths that are too short on the red side, they're going to mostly get absorbed by melanin, which probably isn't what you want to get done as well. So in the middle of this optical window, they refer to it as that's sort of the sweet spot on trying to get light where you want it to go. If you're trying to get blow the surface of skin. There is no perfect wavelength because as you can see, you're trading off for various things. Because when you really look at this science, you realize that the intensity to the light as well as the wavelength all will have an impact on how it gets absorbed. You could have the perfect wavelength but not have enough of it and it won't create a change, or you could get plenty of light down to a substance, but if it's not the right wavelength, it won't it won't get absorbed and get impacted. So understand that there's a lot of research that goes in to figure out the right combinations of power and wavelength so that the devices are effective. So this diagram just gives you a quick sense of how wavelength impacts depths. Not drawn to scale, but it gives you a sense of as when you're in this optical window. As the wavelengths get longer, generally they can penetrate deeper. So, for example, the wavelengths that are used for light force equipment are eight hundred and ten and nine hundred and eighty animeters. That they use two different diodes to create those two wavelengths, and the reason why is they do a good job of getting past the skin and they've been shown to get absorbed very nicely by different tissues like muscles and nerves and things of that nature, which is why they work so well in this space. But you'll see a lot of companies use a lot of different exotic wavelengths that aren't those same two. Those are the two pretty much most referenced and most researched wavelengths. There's some other ones that show up. Just understand you need to understand how they're absorbed and how well they penetrate when you're trying to think about which ones you want to apply or what device you want to purchase to treat your patients, because it's important. So that last diagram was wavelength. This one is power, and it just goes to show you that if you have a fixed wavelength, but you have more power. So in this example it's five watts versus ten watts, you can see that it's going to basically be able to go to the same depth because wavelength will determine the ultimate depth that something can go, but you'll just get twice as much light at that depth. So power is important on delivery, like how many photons can I deliver to a tissue per second at a given wavelength, And that's where when you start hearing, oh, I have higher power makes it easier to treat these for tissues. This is kind of the thought behind it, and we'll talk a little bit more about that in just a second. So you've probably seen devices that are LEDs that are on the market. Most of those are like take home type devices versus the laser devices, but they both fall under this photobiomodulation umbrella, which is true. So you need to know the differences between the two if you're thinking about going down in one direction or another. There's some facts you want to know. So basically, when you have a white light or a LED, they are considered incoherent light, meaning that they are like the picture on the left, like people walking around in a mall, and they're just sort of unorganized. Coherent light is unique to laser and that all the photons are moving in sequence together. So that's one of the hallmarks of laser and that's what makes it very effective at trying to get through tissue and get to depth. So when you look at a laser that has a couple properties that are unique to it. A it's monochromatic, meaning it's one wavelength, so it's a very specific wavelength. The lens on a laser can be divergent, like they are in therapy laser, so it starts out and then it kind of fans out. But I'm sure you've all seen laser pointers or the sites on a rifle. A laser rifle, they have a divergent angle of zero because they want that light that can go and point hundreds of yards away and help target something. I mean, they can even make lasers that can basically tell the communication ones that can interact with satellites. So if you have enough power, you can basically push you can push light for many, many, many miles. And then the last piece is that they are coherent, meaning that they're in sequence with each other, and they're columnated, so they're going to go very straight basically. So when you hear about classes of laser in the United States, the FDA is the people that assign that. There's some other classes that are on the international side of the world, but generally when you're talking about therapy lasers, they're going to fall into either a Class two A, which would be less than five million watts, which is essentially the power of a laser pointer. You would have a Class three B, which would be anywhere from six miliwatts up to four hundred and ninety nine miliwats, and then anything over a half of watt, so five hundred miliwats or more is considered Class four. There is no CLASSI five, so Class four is a large group of devices that could be an industrial laser, it could be these photo biomosulation devices. So surgical lasers are often Class four devices because they're trying to cut, cauterize, and things of that nature. And some people get misinformed to say, oh, if you have a Class four device, it's going to be dangerous. Those are only for doing surgery, and it's not true. The surgical lasers have very specific wavelengths to attract water because they wanted to cauterize, so they use longer wavelengths generally, and they have a very high intensity, so they make the spot very hot, and that's why they work so well to cut and cauterized tissue. But obviously the intensities of the light for the therapy lasers in Class four are set quite differently. So if anybody tells you that, we take that wisdom with a great of salt. Generally, if you put them side by side, the LEDs, the nice thing about them is that they can treat superficial conditions. Well, they don't have a specific wavelength, but they can put them in a pretty small band of wavelengths, so it's not like a laser that is a single wavelength, but it'll be in a range. Like for the average car that's made now, the red tail lights are LEDs and so those ranges are usually between six thirty five and six hundred and sixty nanometers. The nice thing about those devices is they're cheap, they're light, and basically they can be used to treat superficial things. Because of the low intensity of those lights, they generally don't treat deeper conditions very well. So if you were trying to buy a device to help with say, woundtealing or something along those lines, and it was an LED and it would say in the red range, it probably would work pretty well based on the the research it's out there. If you try to take that same device and treat things that are a couple of centimeters below the surface of the skin, probably wouldn't work so well. So when you look over there on the right for laser, they're much better at treating to depth because they can basically have much higher intensities. So you can dial in the wavelength that you want. So if you know that, hey, I want something in the eight hundred range or nine hundred range, you can basically nail that number and then you can basically put a lot more intensity or power behind that, which is really important when you're trying to make cells change at depth. So that's where the Class four devices or even the Class three B lasers that they're used properly, can reach deeper tissues than the led SCN. So let's talk a little bit about the impact on pain and tissue repair. This is really a very interesting topic when it comes to light and understand that when you talk about photobiomodulation as a family, they can generally create those second and third part of this slide the short term changes as well as the lasting effects and why, and that is that if you get enough light to the mitochondria, you can have this impact on the inflammatory cascades. You can have an impact on circulation via nitric oxide being released. So it's not uncommon that you treat a patient if you dose it properly, they'll come back in a day or two and say, hey, you know what, I think I'm feeling better. And that's because of these mechanisms that are listed here For that short term and lasting effects. That first one within minutes part that generally has to be done with higher intensity light. So the higher power class four lasers. This is sort of where they shine u pun intended for being able to change pain with your patients very quickly. So what they call irradiance or power density. At higher levels they can impact afferent nerves. And that's what I want to talk about here with this slide. So Vanessa Landa did this study twenty seventeen or so, and it was an animal study. But what was cool is she put light down by the dorser root aglia of the these nerves and animals, and she also did peatrie dish work and what she showed was these pictures here on the right where when you put intense light on an affarent nerve you can create varicosities, which is that web like look you're seeing there. So it starts there on the upper left, which is sort of the control slide, and as you move to the upper right and then down to the middle and down to the lower basically they were the nerve was getting exposed for a longer periods of time, so they're getting more light to it, and you can see that you created more of those sort of spider web looking which are basically these sort of outbranchings that happen where the microtubules meet things is a if you were to take light account, so that's happening from a chemical standpoint. This is happening from a photochemical standpoint. But it's interesting that the nerve responds very similarly to that sort of input and they both have a similar and that it changes the pain of the ability of that nerve, and it does it by the amount of ATP that's distributed amongst the nerve slows down the conduction velocity, and by doing so it some mechanis happening, but it's something that's happening when you read. So what I was just trying to conclude there is that when you hit afferent nerves with high intensity light, you basically can create this change in the afferent the sea fiber for chronic pain and the adelta fibers for more acute pain. And when that happens, you will actually change the performance of that nerve, which will have an impact on a pain perception. So this phenomena has to be done with higher power though, in order to make it happen, which is pretty cool. So with regard to tissue repair, these are just some different mechanisms that take place as far as the ways that laser can help with tendons or muscles get better, so as far as increasing collagen lay down by better fiber plastic activity, better blood flow to it via new eplithylization, as well as better blood flow in the short term from nitrodoxide release, all those things will get more oxygenated blood to the scene. And then from macrophage activity, it increases their ability to chew up tissue that needs to be replaced and repaired, which all are obviously a big help when you're trying to replace damaged tissue. So an example that was this rabid study that was done when they surgically basically cut the achilles and then sewda back together and then they treated those tenons with laser and so doses was pretty small because it was done essentially on in vitro, so the amount of dose that need is very small. But you can see on the left side the collagen alignment looks very different than that slide on the right where they did not use the laser. And what's cool is they take a magnified version of this and you can really see that there's a very different look to that collagen on the left versus the right, So if you were dealing with a lot of ten in repairs and you were thinking about investing in a laser to try to help with your outcomes, you can sort of get a sense of why it might be a good idea to do that. So to make all this stuff happen laser, it's important to have dosing on point. And basically, when you put light into tissue, one of four things is going to happen. It's either going to scatter, which means it's just going to spread out and that happens on your skin quite a bit. It's going to be reflected, which means it bounces off. It's going to be transmitted, which means it would go all the way through. Like when you take an X ray of somebody, you're transmitting those X rays through the tissue to the film and then the last would be absorbed. And that's what you want with photoby modulation. You wanted to get into the tissue, but you also wanted to get absorbed. So that's an important concept to remember when you're looking at different papers or things. How well does it get into tissue, but ultimately how well does that wavelength get absorbed. So when you talk about dose with laser, you're really talking about jewels percent of your square, which is the amount of energy you put in pre unit area, and that is going to also factor into how many times somebody is treated in a week or how often they're treated in a planet care. So when you start talking about dose specifically in a study and you're looking at it, it should mention these four things. The wavelength that was used, the area that was treated, the total energy that was applied, so the administration time, and the power that was used, which should also tell you the size of the spot, which will give you a sense of what they call a radiance or power density, and then how many times they were treated per week. You put all that information together, you can have a pretty good feel for the dosing and be able to replicate that study. If they don't put all that information in, then you're probably going to have a tough time replicating what you see, and unfortunately a lot of papers do not have all that information. Unfortunately, that's it for today's episode. Be sure to tune in for part two, where doctor Callen and we'll talk more about specific treatment guidelines and protocols for tissue depth in order to achieve clinical goals. We will also get a sneak peek into the future of light therapy and new innovations in Novus has in the works. To miss it. 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